I was a guest, along with the excellent Marian Tupy, on the TASA show hosted by Jennifer Grossman. We discuss the origins of Cato’s Human Progress project, how we entered the Age of Abundance, social media and the patience needed to deal with online brutalism, the many positive social indicators of modernity, whether optimism vs. pessimism is philosophical or psychological, malevolent versus benevolent universe premises, the historical preconditions of progress in the last 300 years, and more.